SPW050804 SCOTLAND (1936). Ardrossan Old Dock and South Bay, Ardrossan. An oblique aerial photograph taken facing east.

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Title [SPW050804] Ardrossan Old Dock and South Bay, Ardrossan. An oblique aerial photograph taken facing east.
Reference SPW050804
Date 1936
Link Canmore Collection item 1257823
Place name
Parish ARDROSSAN
District CUNNINGHAME
Country SCOTLAND
Easting / Northing 222479, 642038
Longitude / Latitude -4.8208418048589, 55.639423140164
National Grid Reference NS225420

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mv DEVON COAST Built 1936 by Ardrossan Dockyard. Destroyed in the fire following raid on Bari Italy 02/12/1943. Her cargo was cased gasoline. Wreck raised after the war (1948?) and broken up.

Billy Turner
Thursday 17th of December 2015 06:20:47 PM

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 03:00:37 PM
Steam locomotive - a tank engine

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:59:20 PM

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:58:41 PM
Looks like a full brake coach for passenger trains, with a guard's compartment and space for luggage, parcels, etc. Appears to be corridor connected

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:57:26 PM
Vans belonging to the Great Western Railway - rather far north from their territory!

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:54:05 PM
Nearly all vehicles had been common user since the 1914-18 war, so it is surprising that there are not more non LMS or (L) NE (R) wagons to be seen. ... After all they do have wheels on, so they tend to move about!

Maurice
Monday 27th of January 2014 03:46:55 PM
Thanks for enlightening me, Maurice. That being the case, where would such wagons be maintained - would the GW vehicles find their way back to GW metals, or would they receive repairs anywhere on the railway network? Why bother to distinguish between GW, LMS and LNER, by large lettering on the sides of the vans, etc?

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 10:42:00 PM
Unless specially marked any wagon would be assumed to be such. When a 'common user' wagon wandered onto another company's rails they were permitted to retain the 'foreign' wagon and use it as required. The Railways Clearing House (RCH) then determined any payment to be made to the parent company. Every now and again a rake of empty wagons might be formed and returned to the parent company but in general the stock remained in a fair balance. The common user system reduced the empty wagon mileage from 60% of the total before the war to only 20% of the total by 1918. This was self evidently a commercial success and the scheme remained in operation right up to the nationalisation of the railways after the Second World War.



Companies would reserve any special stock for their own use, but there were variations in what the companies considered special. For example the LMS, LNER and SR pooled their cattle wagons under the RCH 'common user' scheme in 1927, the GWR however did not place their cattle wagons in the pool. More specialised livestock vehicles, such as horse boxes, were not pooled by any of the companies and other specialised rolling stock such as grain hoppers, banana vans and fruit vans would also be reserved. These `non common user' vehicles were marked as such and had to be returned to the parent company as soon as possible after unloading, fees being paid if they were retained.



Railway company owned tarpaulin sheets were brought into the Common User scheme in about 1917. In the main they would stay with a particular wagon but it would be possible to see for example an LNER wagon sheet draped over an LMS wagon. Sheets were easier to return than wagons however, so this would not have been common.



The pooling of railway company stock was such an evident success that a common user pool was also established for private owner vehicles. The wagons belonging to the pool were clearly marked as such and the RCH determined any payments required for the use of a pooled wagon. The private owner pool markings were common from the 1920's until the Second World War.

The above reproduced from http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/gansg/1-hist/hist-c.htm

cbrndc
Thursday 18th of August 2016 06:36:20 AM
Cattle trucks, of different designs

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:53:05 PM
LMS steam locomotive - a 0-6-0 tank engine, possibly ex Caledonian Railway?

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:51:55 PM
LMS guard's brake van

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:50:52 PM
Steam locomotive - an LMS 4-4-0 with coal trucks in tow, some private owner

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:50:13 PM
Black-funnelled vessel carries name 'Devon Coast' on stern. Registered in Liverpool

MB
Monday 27th of January 2014 02:48:51 PM
Had been launched here on 30/5/1936 for Coast Lines Ltd.

mannidaze
Thursday 11th of September 2014 11:21:59 PM