EPW006757 ENGLAND (1921). Finchley Urban District Council Sewage Farm near Coppetts Wood, Colney Hatch, 1921. This image has been affected by flare.

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Title [EPW006757] Finchley Urban District Council Sewage Farm near Coppetts Wood, Colney Hatch, 1921. This image has been affected by flare.
Reference EPW006757
Date June-1921
Link
Place name COLNEY HATCH
Parish
District
Country ENGLAND
Easting / Northing 527787, 191375
Longitude / Latitude -0.15448416209339, 51.606220646423
National Grid Reference TQ278914

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Coppett's Road

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:42:33 AM

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:36:06 AM
Hillside Avenue

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:18:24 AM
Number 14 which is the only house on this side of Colney Hatch Lane which stands directly on the pavement and without a front garden.

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:17:30 AM

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:11:53 AM
Woodhouse Road A1003

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:06:33 AM

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:03:47 AM
Coppett's Wood

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:37:59 AM

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:36:50 AM

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:36:04 AM
B5550 Colney Hatch Lane

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:34:10 AM
Summers Lane, Finchley

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:31:44 AM
New houses are on Ingleway, Finchley

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:30:26 AM
Woodhouse Road, Finchley

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:29:06 AM
Approx route of North Circular Road

Graeme
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 04:27:48 AM
New council housing?

kjc
Wednesday 23rd of October 2013 04:52:12 PM
The shadow this structure is throwing looks as though it might be a Bridge or Viaduct support ?

Johnners
Tuesday 1st of October 2013 11:29:32 AM
I suspect that this is a fault on the pohotograph but I may be wrong. I have had another look at this photo and I am no further forward. For what it is worth I have been looking generally in south London but with no success.

Class31
Tuesday 1st of October 2013 12:14:34 PM
Now we know where we are this is the roof of the houses in Hollybush Avenue.

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:34:07 AM

birdseye?
Tuesday 11th of December 2012 06:51:37 PM
Modern looking double decker bus or possibly sheffield tram

JAC
Thursday 23rd of August 2012 05:06:51 PM
Metropolitan Electric Tramways tram.

mannidaze
Wednesday 27th of August 2014 05:42:59 PM
Rather obvious sewage works

Eton Slaphead
Monday 9th of July 2012 10:18:43 PM

User Comment Contributions

This is a photo taken looking NW towards North Finchley.



The sewage works are shown north of the North Circular Road and the allotments on the southside.(Google Earth - 1945)

Graeme
Wednesday 8th of January 2014 08:37:27 AM
Very well done Graeme. All the evidence is there for this being in the Coppett's Wood area. We have had to wait a long time for this to be identified but it is splendid when a gem like this is found. Once again, well done!

Class31
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 10:49:22 AM
Well sorted out another long term unlocated bites the dust

Dave Brunt
Tuesday 10th of December 2013 09:45:24 PM
Hi Graeme,



Thanks for spending time on this image, which has been baffling everyone for some time now...great finally to nail the location down! We'll update the catalogue and post the new data here in due course.



Yours, Katy

Britain from Above Cataloguing Team Leader

Katy Whitaker
Wednesday 8th of January 2014 08:37:27 AM
I don't think the transport at the top of the picture is a Sheffield ex London Transport 'Feltham' Tram, there do not appear to be any tramlines anyway.It might be a six wheeled coach.

Johnners
Tuesday 1st of October 2013 11:33:36 AM
I've done some research into the Beddington Sewage works but I have been unable to fit it to this image. Back to the drawing board.

Class31
Tuesday 2nd of July 2013 12:02:40 AM
berryland sewage works perhaps?

jackie
Monday 25th of March 2013 09:24:34 AM
I'll have another look at Beddington Sewage Works to see if it fits.

Class31
Tuesday 2nd of July 2013 12:02:40 AM
This one's frustrating isn't it?! The original Aerofilms Ltd Register entry says "Filter Beds, Wandsworth".



Yours, Katy

Britain from Above Cataloguing Team Leader

Katy Whitaker
Monday 1st of July 2013 12:42:55 PM
Could this be the old sewerage works at Elmers End Beckenham, with the Beckenham Crematorium in the foreground? The sewerage works were closed in, I think, about the early 1960's, and it is now the South Norwood Country Park.

SteveR
Wednesday 22nd of May 2013 12:17:20 PM
It could be the old South Norwood Sewage Farm (now South Norwood Country Park)with the allotments in the foreground (was Churchfields Road Allotments, now Dorset Road Allotments) with the little river running through it. Not sure when the houses were build on Elmers End Road (which now runs between the two sites).

Jeannette
Monday 20th of May 2013 06:29:38 PM
I've been trying to find an image of the old South Norwood Sewage works but can't. However I have found this description on the Croydon website at

http://www.croydononline.org/history/places/parks_and_open_spaces/snorwoodpark.asp



"The Sewage Farm was never a success for the subsoil was London Clay and the flooded fields would remain wet for months without draining away. A series of concrete channels were constructed over the farm to direct the sewage out over the numerous fields.



With a change in the methods of treating sewage the irrigation beds were abandoned and a series of round filter beds were built in the centre of the site. This change in sewage disposal meant that the fields were not used for many years and in that time a great variety of wetland grasses and vegetation has grown virtually undisturbed."

Jeannette
Tuesday 21st of May 2013 09:03:39 AM
I've had a look at this using the oldmaps website but I can't identify this as the South Norwood Sewage Farm. The filters do not fit and there are no railways which there are at South Norwood.

Class31
Tuesday 21st of May 2013 11:48:07 AM
I can see from the later maps that there are small circles drawn further towards the centre of the site which would suggest that this isn't the site. However the 1919 maps don't show a location.



The tree line through the allotments does look identical to the path of the river that runs through Dorset Road Allotments; from the view (based on the allotments/tree line that could be the river) I don't think you would see the railway lines.



In 1921 none of the houses were built on Elmers End Road or on Dorset or Ancaster Roads. So it could fit from that point of view. If in 1921 the South Norwood Sewage works had round filter beds as shown. I've emailed the council parks dept to see if they have any old images/plans.

Jeannette
Tuesday 21st of May 2013 11:51:41 PM
I've now found an old aerial photo of South Norwood Sewage Works- the tanks are different. http://www.ukaerialphotos.com/BROMLEY/Beckenham/Beckenham.htm

Jeannette
Wednesday 22nd of May 2013 12:17:20 PM
I believe that the sewage works highlighted is now the Beckton Sewage Treatment Works, IG11 0AD, run by Thames Water, previously the Jenkins Lane Sewage Works, only about 4 miles north=west of the Frog Island site in EPW 06756



If this belief be correct:



a the camera points eastwards;



b the tram noted at the top of the picture is on Jenkins Lane

on the route from Barking to Beckton gas works. The site of the Barking by=pass, completed 1928, is to the south out of the picture. Until Jenkins Lane was resurfaced after the by=pass opened it was unfit to bear a 'bus service;



c between the sewage works and Jenkins Lane is now the site of the North Circular Road running horizontally l to r across the photograph.

dl
Tuesday 21st of May 2013 12:00:09 PM
I,ve looked at the Jenkin's Lane location on oldmaps and I can find nothing to link it with our photograph. I'm as keen as everyone else to identify this photograph which has eluded everyone for almost a year.

Class31
Tuesday 21st of May 2013 12:00:09 PM
This one has a new flash on it but is one of the original batch released last June.

Class31
Tuesday 21st of May 2013 11:35:22 AM
Berrylands sewage works?

jackie
Monday 25th of March 2013 09:22:13 AM
I suggest that this is somewhere in the London area based on the photograph numbers before and after this shot. Rainham and Wimbledon. It doesn't narrow the search down much but there is not a lot here to go on.Good Luck

Class31
Wednesday 18th of July 2012 09:34:37 AM